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After three years of
trying, we finally got him. We were honoured and, I'll
be honest, a little surprised when Ray Wilkins agreed to
an interview with us. Ray talks openly about his time at
Ranges as both a player and a player/manager.
QPRnet.com:
You joined QPR in 1989 after a glamorous career, what
made that an attractive move for you?
RW:
I was just leaving Glasgow Rangers and I wanted to come
back to London, Don Howe was there at the time with
Trevor Francis and it had been mooted Trevor wanted to
sign me. I just didn’t hesitate, I knew a lot of people
that had played for Rangers before and they said what a
great club it was and how well run it was so I thought
let’s give this a bash, let’s get home and get cracking.
QPRnet.com:
You were 33 years old at the time, outsiders may have
seen it as an old pro winding down his career. It didn’t
pan out like that though did it?
RW:
Absolutely not, there was no way I was just going there
to see out time, I looked around at the players they had
at the club and I knew I was going to enjoy life at QPR.
Thankfully I was able to play there for a good few years
because I had some really good times and we had some
fantastic results against some really good teams.
QPRnet.com:
You went on to play some of the best football of your
life. What clicked for you at QPR?
RW:
I think it was the working environment: we had a great
bunch of lads, a really exceptional bunch of fellas. We
all got on well, enjoyed each others’ company and worked
hard for each other and it just went from strength to
strength. Gerry came in after Don left and he got us
extremely organised and we were very tough to beat.
QPRnet.com:
It wasn’t quite as common to see someone playing at 35
or 36 in the Premier League at the time. What do you put
that longevity down to?
RW:
Well firstly I never had any pace, the first thing
people say as you get older is that you’ve lost a yard
but I never had that yard to lose! Secondly I looked
after myself as a pro, since joining Milan I’d always
looked after myself because I love playing football.
Thirdly was simply that I was enjoying myself. I was
lucky enough to have a bunch of young blokes around who
were prepared to work very hard and to a large degree a
lot of those young fellas did a lot of my running which
helped me enormously.
QPRnet.com:
You mentioned Milan there, I assume once you get to your
30’s diet and nutrition becomes very important. Was that
something you brought back from Italy with you?
RW:
Most definitely, I don’t think I became a full
professional until I went to Milan. My diet wasn’t what
it should have been and I probably didn’t look after
myself as well as I could. You can take fitness for
granted but when I went to Milan I went up another notch
which I think kept me in good stead for years to come.
QPRnet.com:
Having played in some of the biggest stadia in the
world, how much fun was it playing at compact Loftus
Road?
RW:
I’ve always said that atmospherically QPR is as good a
ground as any. It only holds nineteen or twenty thousand
but by Christ when it’s full the noise down on the pitch
is something special, it’s as good as it gets. We had
some great times there playing some massive games
against big teams and sometimes absolutely battering
them as well.
QPRnet.com:
Any games in particular stick out in your memory?
RW:
I remember being a goal down to Spurs and we absolutely
battered them 4-1. There was one against Arsenal on a
rain-soaked night in the cup, we’d drawn at Highbury and
we beat them 2-0.
QPRnet.com:
Another great game from your time was the 4-1 win at Old
Trafford, how much did you enjoy that bearing in mind
they were your old club?
RW:
That was New Years Day and Mr Bailey up front, it’s not
often anyone gets a hatrick at Old Trafford is it! It
was one of those games that while you were playing you
just kept thinking when are they going to start
bombarding us, but it just didn’t happen. It must have
been one of the only times that a Manchester United team
has played at Old Trafford and had nine players off
synch. Fortunately for us we had the whole team on synch
and we deserved to beat them, we battered them.
QPRnet.com:
As an experienced pro were you always on hand to help
out with the younger lads? Certainly Les Ferdinand is
always very complimentary about your influence on his
career.
RW:
I think that’s what being an older pro is all about. Les
was something slightly different in that you could see a
potential that was so untapped it was embarrassing. This
fella was so dynamic and he could leap like a salmon. A
lot of lads were very supportive and when he missed
chances it was always “unlucky Les, next time Les” but
that has to stop at some stage and someone has to point
out that it’s not unlucky it’s a bad miss. I think I
might have been one of the first to tell him so. I don’t
think he was too chuffed but from that time he took more
care in what he did.
When
he was young he was moving at a hundred miles an hour
but trying to finish at a hundred miles an hour as well.
He soon came to terms with the fact that by all means he
could move fast but he had to stay cool in his head at
the same time. I think that’s why over his career he
became such a tremendous player. He’s a solid bloke, he
just had to work at his game to be something and he
achieved that.
QPRnet.com:
Ian Holloway always says his job was to get the ball and
give it to you and he is always quite self-critical of
his playing days, do you think he is unfair on himself?
RW:
In some ways I would say Ian has it 100% right, but
certainly the effort and the work he put in to improve
himself as a footballer meant he became far more than
just a ball winner. He was very good at that job and yes
he was one of the guys that did a lot of my work for me
as I got older but certainly he was still a very
valuable member of the team and good grief did he work
hard. I think the teams he has produced as a manager
have mirrored what he was, they all work very hard and
they all want to win the game. That’s the attitude he
had as a player and full credit to him for realising he
had to work at his game because when he did that he
became a far better footballer.
QPRnet.com:
Did Olly give the impression he’d move into management?
RW:
He certainly gave the impression that once he set his
mind on something he would be totally disappointed if he
didn’t achieve it. He’s created this image of himself
that he is a born winner and to be fair that’s what he
is and I think what he’s done at QPR over the last few
years is exemplary.
QPRnet.com:
You and Ian were managed at the time by Gerry Francis,
whom you mentioned earlier. He certainly got the best
out of the players he had, what was he like to work for?
RW:
He was good as gold Gerry, he had us very well
organised. At the time, apart from the side that Gerry
himself played in, he probably had the best side that
QPR had seen in a long while, we were a good team. I was
talking to Andrew Impey the other day, of course he is
now with me at Millwall, and we were wondering how that
side would fare in the Premiership today and I think we
would do very well.
QPRnet.com:
You scored ten goals for QPR, do you have a favourite?
RW:
Probably the best one was against Liverpool, it was a
long range effort from about thirty yards off the left
foot that just creamed in. Unfortunately we lost 3-1
though. To be honest I’m never one for favourite goals
because the way I played I was never going to score too
many, I was more of a playmaker and holder in midfield,
I scored a few early on in my career at Chelsea but in
the latter stages I was never going to score loads. I’ve
always thought if the team wins then that’s what is
paramount, it doesn’t matter who scores the goals.
Obviously you want the forwards to be knocking them in
because that’s their gig but as a midfielder I wasn’t
too concerned.
QPRnet.com:
You left the club on a free transfer in 1994 and joined
Palace, it was a shock to the fans at the time how did
that come about and what were your feelings?
RW:
It was really simple actually, I wanted to continue to
play but Gerry didn’t have the funds to keep me so he
let me go. I joined Palace and then of course Gerry left
QPR six months later. Peter Ellis called me up and said
he’d like a chat so I went over and met with him and
Richard Thompson, they asked me to be manager and I
jumped at the chance. That’s why I didn’t stay at Palace
for long because I was just desperate to get back to
Rangers.
QPRnet.com:
The first season you came in as manager we were
struggling and you lifted us up the Premier League and
we finished tenth. You must have been pleased with that
turnaround?
RW:
We were fifth from bottom when I arrived and we should
have qualified for Europe by the end of that season. We
were flying, the lads were buzzing, but then
unfortunately we had a very poor Easter. All of a sudden
we lost three on the spin, maybe the lads realised we
might achieve something and got a bit panicky.
QPRnet.com:
Did relegation the next season catch everyone by
surprise?
RW:
It was going to be uphill after losing Les, we went with
two young blokes in Kevin Gallen and Danny Dichio and it
was always going to be difficult to score goals. As I
said before though the effort and the work rate they put
in was nobody’s business and you can’t really grumble as
far as that’s concerned. Kevin was in fantastic form
after we came down from the Premier League and it took
him a long, long time to get over that cruciate injury,
his career was hampered immensely by that.
QPRnet.com:
When we sold Ferdinand do you wish we’d brought a direct
replacement rather than strengthened the squad
generally?
RW:
We just couldn’t replace him that was the problem we
had. If you want to replace twenty plus goals you have
to spend six million quid and that’s what we sold Les
for. It was probably fantastic money for the club but we
couldn’t reinforce as well as we would have liked.
Obviously when you lose an England centre forward and an
international class left back in Clive Wilson it’s very
difficult to persuade other top class players to join
because they don’t want to just be in a division, they
want to win things.
QPRnet.com:
It must have been quite frustrating because the club was
on the verge of doing something really momentous. If we
had just built on the team rather than dismantle it, who
knows what could have happened.
RW:
I’ve always said that if you’ve got no control over a
situation you just get on with it, you can’t be
wallowing in what ifs. I never whinge about something I
don’t have control over. If something’s my fault I can
complain as much as I like but if I don’t have control
over it then that’s someone else’s gig.
QPRnet.com:
Players from the time have commented that they felt they
let you down in that relegation season and they came
back next summer with a new determination and that there
was a fantastic atmosphere around the place because
everyone was determined to come straight back up. Was
that how you found it as well?
RW:
Yes I did, we had a group of fellas that were breaking
their balls for Frank and me, and we felt when we came
back for pre-season that we would come back, we had a
good enough group of boys and we were determined to give
it a blast.
QPRnet.com:
You left the club after only four games in the old First
Division, Alan McDonald told us in his interview that he
thought that was the day the club was ruined. Frank
Sibley said that he was offered the chance to stay but
left on principle because of the way you were treated.
How do you feel about it?
RW:
Things behind the scenes were extremely difficult, we’d
started the season strongly, won the first two games,
drew with Wolves then we lost at home to Bolton who were
always going to be a strong side then that was that. If
I’m honest I think we would have bounced straight back
up, Kevin of course had injured his knee at Portsmouth
and we would have missed him immensely but we had enough
players to get ourselves back in there. I’ve got to say
that when that day came about I was absolutely
devastated.
QPRnet.com:
Do you think it was just down to the new owner wanting
his own man in?
RW:
I don’t think it was entirely down to Chris, I think
there were people behind him who probably wanted someone
different in.
QPRnet.com:
If you could have your time in management at Rangers
again what one thing would you do differently?
RW:
The one thing I didn’t do was play enough, I should have
played more. I was fit enough and wasn’t involved as
much as I should have been, but the main reason we went
down from the Premier League is because we lost Les
Ferdinand and Clive Wilson. We lost two blokes out of
the dressing room who were fantastic players and had
immense respect from everybody and when your dressing
room is decimated as ours was it’s very hard to bounce
back.
Obviously Les gave us twenty goals a season and Clive
Wilson was probably the best uncapped left back to ever
play. When those two left I was absolutely distraught
and we couldn’t really get ourselves into shape again. I
can’t criticise the lads that were left though, no
matter what team I picked they just worked their socks
off for me.
QPRnet.com:
Do you never wish you’d concentrated on solely managing
rather than trying to balance it with playing as well?
RW:
No not at all, the opportunity came up for me in that
way and I knew I just had to take it. Fortunately for me
I had a great number two in Frank Sibley he was
different class for me so I had no concerns with that
side of things. The only problem I had with Frank was
that the bugger kept taking me off!
QPRnet.com:
What would you say was your proudest moment at the club?
RW:
It was after we’d been relegated from the Premier League
unfortunately, we went down after beating West Ham at
home and our last game in the division was away to
Nottingham Forest. There were about four and a half
thousand QPR fans there and at the end of the game they
wouldn’t leave until I’d gone out to see them. I
remember thinking I must have done something right to
get that sort of reaction from a group of people.
I’ll
tell you the saddest moment as well, that was when I
left the club. In total as a player and manager I had
eight years at QPR and my family and I were so close to
the club and we were devastated when it happened,
absolutely devastated. Even when I go back now the place
still holds so many fond memories. The nicest thing was
the whole of my family was accepted into the club and we
thoroughly enjoyed every moment.
QPRnet.com:
You have worked mainly in coaching and assistant manager
roles. Is that something you prefer and would you ever
take on the responsibility of manager again?
RW:
Oh absolutely, I can’t wait for the next opportunity.
It’s been a pleasure to work with the people I have, and
it’s always nice to be asked, but I still want to go and
do it myself. I think I’ve learned a hell of a lot over
the last few years and I want to do it again. I miss
being the person who makes the decision, I want to
decide how the team plays, when you are an assistant you
can offer an opinion but you don’t have that final say,
and that’s what I want to get back to doing.
QPRnet.com:
Of course you don’t have the pressure either though, is
that not something that concerns you?
RW:
I’m not bothered about that, the pressure is irrelevant.
The only pressure I had was picking a team and winning
games but that’s what we do and that’s what I want to
do. When I was at QPR the pressure was taken off me by
Sheila Marson, Terry Springett and of course Frank
Sibley, they did everything off the field for me. Frank
was different class and the two girls were absolute
diamonds, if you could bottle them and take them with
you wherever you went then you would. I’ve got similar
people at Millwall, the girls there are absolutely
outstanding.
QPRnet.com:
And if you had to compare playing and management……
RW:
No chance, don’t even go there! To come off a pitch
wringing wet with all your mates alongside you after
you’ve just battered somebody is by far and away better
than anything you reach as a coach or a manager, you
can’t beat it! All that pre-season grinding, bashing out
the laps on the track, you hate every second of it at
the time but you cannot beat being physically fit and
going for a game of football with your mates.
QPRnet.com:
You are constantly named in QPR best ever XI. How does
it feel to have made that kind of impact on people?
RW:
When I look back at some of the players QPR have had it
makes me extremely proud. People say to me “It’s only
QPR”, but it’s not only QPR, they’ve had some fantastic
footballers at QPR. Often when you leave a club you can
be forgotten easily so it gives me immense satisfaction
to even be thought of after all these years, let alone
named in best ever teams by fans.
QPRnet.com:
If the chance ever came to be involved at QPR again is
it something you’d consider?
RW:
No hesitation whatsoever!
QPRnet.com:
As an outsider looking in and having drawn twice with
Rangers this season, what’s your view of the club and
are we going in the right direction?
RW:
The first thing we said to our lads was that they will
work their socks off against us. Ian has put together an
extremely hard working side. As a club they seem to have
themselves back on their feet and that’s the way it
should be because they deserve to be so. You get what,
fifteen and a half thousand average gates? That’s three
and half more than Millwall and probably one of the best
in the division and if you can keep the crowds to that
sort of level every week then Loftus Road is going to be
a really hard place for teams to go and play at. Please
God it all continues the way it’s going at QPR and they
get back in the Premier League where they belong.
We would like to
express our thanks to Ray for taking time out of his day
to talk to us. |