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We were particulary
thrilled when an absolute legend in Rodney Marsh agreed
to talk to us about his time at QPR. Marshy chats about
his time at the club as a player, the controversial
decision to employ him over Gerry Francis, how he sees
the club these days and much more.
QPRnet.com:
When you arrived at QPR
did it appear as a club on the up?
RM:
Very much so, and that was down to the chairman at the
time Jim Gregory. He had great vision about the future
of QPR, he was such a passionate man and he was one of
those people who put his money where his mouth was and
he had the vision to take the club forward. Not
dissimilar by the way to what Al-Fayed has done with
Fulham.
QPRnet.com:
We won the league that
year by twelve points when it was only two points for a
win and scored over 100 league goals, just how good a
side did we have?
RM:
It’s hard to
make modern day comparison and analogies but I would say
that it was one of the most exciting teams I have ever
seen, ever, and I’ve watched football for a long long
time. We played the old WM formation, so we had
goalscoring wingers in Morgan and Lazarus, two
goalscoring strikers in myself and Les Allen all
complimented by two workhorses in midfield in Mike Keen
and Keith Sanderson. It was a fantastic side.
QPRnet.com:
I read that you rated
Les Allen as the best strike partner you ever had, why
was that?
RM: People
never really give enough credit to Les Allen. He was an
outstanding footballer, he had a great football brain,
he could score goals, make goals, he had great vision
and never ever got the credit he deserved. He was
absolutely top drawer.
QPRnet.com:
Do you think you might
have taken some of the limelight away from him?
RM: From one
point of view I did I suppose, maybe he got the hump
about that I don’t know!
QPRnet.com:
We really trounced some
teams, 7-1 at Mansfield, 6-0 against Doncaster. Do you
have a personal favourite league game from that season?
RM: This might
actually be from the year before but we played Millwall
and beat them 6-1 and I scored two and made three, I
think Les Allen scored a hatrick. I always remember that
game as being absolutely incredible, it was just wave
after wave after wave of attack. We scored six but it
could easily have been sixteen.
QPRnet.com:
From your point of view
was that a perfect personal performance?
RM: No
actually! I had a game just after we won the league cup,
we played Bournemouth at Loftus Road and that for me
stands out as the most perfect game I ever played. I
think I only scored two or three but it was one of those
games where they couldn’t get the ball off me! You have
those from time to time and for me I played the perfect
football match.
QPRnet.com:
Talking of the league cup final, I think people might be
a little blasé about it now as the competition is so
devalued these days, so for the benefit of some of our
younger readers can you tell us just how much of an
achievement was it for Rangers to win the League Cup
that season?
RM:
Well at the time it was staggering because people
thought of it as being a big competition, we beat West
Brom who in those days were a top First Division team,
to put it in today’s terms you could compare them with
Newcastle or Leeds, plus we were two nil down at half
time of course! So for a Third Division team to come
back and win three-two against a team like that, in
front of one hundred thousand people, in the first
Wembley final was an incredible achievement, absolutely
incredible.
QPRnet.com:
How did we approach the
game did we always believe we could win?
RM: Well in
those days we had a manager called Alec Stock and he
only knew one way to play which was all out attack! We
didn’t change our system home or away, it helped that we
had players at the back like Frank Sibley, who was a
tremendous defender so not only could we go forward but
when we were under the cosh we could defend well too.
QPRnet.com:
Should your overhead
kick have stood as a goal?
RM:
No, it was offside! I didn’t realise it at the time, in
the heat of the game you just put it in the net and ask
questions afterwards, but I was about three yards
offside.
QPRnet.com:
Your equaliser has been
described as one of the greatest ever scored at Wembley,
what can you remember about it?
RM: It was one
of those no brainers really, I picked the ball up about
forty five yards out and I just wandered around with the
ball until I saw a space and hit it into the space and
it cannoned of the inside of the post and smashed into
the net. I don’t actually remember too much about it, it
was one of those instinctive goals you score from time
to time.
QPRnet.com:
What are your thoughts
on Stan Bowles, can you compare yourselves as players?
RM: I think
it’s very difficult to compare players from different
generations, I will say that Stan Bowles was one of the
most talented footballers that I ever saw. He was a
fantastic player with incredible skill.
The
only reason I think the team that played before Stan
gets so much recognition is because we won things and
achieved so much. We won the Third Division
Championship, the League Cup and of course we got
promoted to the First Division the year after that. All
those things came in only a couple of years, we were
winning things and scoring millions of goals and of
course QPR hasn’t won anything since.
When
you look at the team I played in we scored over a
hundred goals and our main forward player (me) scored
forty four in one season, that then makes it so much
more difficult for teams that follow to come up to that
standard. So when you are comparing players and teams
from different times it’s very difficult.
QPRnet.com:
Why did you never get
into English football management?
RM: I never
really fancied it, I’ve never really wanted to manage or
coach in this country. I did in America for ten years
with the Tampa Bay Rowdies. I played there, coached then
managed before finally becoming their Chief Executive
but I never wanted to do it England because of the way
managers are treated in this country by the tabloid
press and by the fans – I just wouldn’t want the
aggravation that goes along with that.
QPRnet.com:
When you were in
discussion for the Chief Executives position at QPR
could you see problems at Rangers then that ultimately
led to our collapse?
RM: No is the
short answer! A lot of people were anti Richard Thompson
at the time but I always found him to be an extremely
astute businessman and a very clever man too. I
certainly didn’t see the demise of QPR, all I saw was
potential success. QPR’s collapse coincided with Richard
Thompson leaving the club and Chris Wright taking over.
You couldn’t possibly predict it at that time and I
don’t think you can blame Richard Thompson.
QPRnet.com:
After the job offer was withdrawn your reputation took a
bit of a battering amongst
Rangers fans, do you feel you came out of that situation
unfairly?
RM: I did take
a battering yes but I’ve always looked at life as being
relative and what I do, what I’ve always done and what I
continue to do on television that gets me into trouble
is I tell the truth! The problem is people are offended
by the truth sometimes. I told the absolute truth about
the situation at the time and when I’m asked now I tell
the absolute truth. I don’t bullshit and if people don’t
like the truth then fuck them.
QPRnet.com:
I think at the time people saw it as you trying to
muscle in on Gerry Francis and
certainly from reading your autobiography that doesn’t
seem to be the case.
RM:
Well I told the truth at the time, I told it in the book
and I’ll tell it to you again now. The first thing I
said to Richard Thompson was before we do anything I
want to meet with Gerry Francis. That was the first
thing I said, so how in the world that ever got
misplaced I don’t know.
QPRnet.com:
When the club was in administration were you ever
approached to by any of the consortium groups trying to
buy the club?
RM: I chatted
with a couple of guys about it, they came down to see me
at a club I go to in London, Peter Ellis came with them.
I spoke to them for about an hour and they were asking
my opinion on what I thought. The thing that seemed to
hit me was it really wasn’t organised properly. It
wasn’t like they had a three-year or five-year plan,
they just wanted my help to get some money. That
bothered me a bit, when I was with the Rowdies we had
short term and long terms goals, clear thinking on what
we were trying to achieve and I don’t think they have
that.
They
were very passionate, but usually if you meet with
someone you say this is what we are trying to do and
this is what we want to achieve. When you are doing that
sort of thing you have to have to have a plan. I was
approached by the Fulham 2000 fund a couple of years ago
and they were similar, passionate people who care and
want to help but didn’t have a plan as to what they were
doing.
QPRnet.com:
You stated a couple of seasons ago that Rangers were
heading for the conference if they didn’t sort
themselves out.
RM: Yes, I was
right as well!
QPRnet.com:
Do you feel the club has turned the corner now?
RM: Well twelve
months ago it was desperate times, the club almost went
out of existence let alone the conference. I think I was
right when I said that but a lot of people at the time
were offended by that. QPR supporters wrote to me saying
how disloyal I was for saying that. I think I was spot
on with that one at the time, but people got offended by
the truth then as well.
My
understanding is there still is not an awful lot of
money within the football club. The other side of the
coin is if you can’t afford to keep your players, like
the recent situation with Gavin Peacock, then once you
start losing players because of financial reasons then
whose going to come and play for your when the players
you have aren’t good enough to go somewhere else.
To
answer the question though, I think they’ve turned the
corner in terms of steadying the ship, it’s not sinking
anymore but it’s only treading water.
QPRnet.com:
Does it hurt you to see Rangers back in the position
they were when you joined them?
RM:
You know that
is the single most question that I’m asked and I give
the same answer everytime. People are always willing to
have a chip at me when I say something negative but not
compliment me when I say something positive, so I’ll say
it again now. I love QPR. When I first went there they
were a third division team drawing about four thousand
people, when I left they were at the top of the tree, as
far as they were concerned, getting about twenty odd
thousand people and playing great football. I always
look at QPR as being my club, if people ask me “who’s
your favourite club” I say QPR.
QPRnet.com:
How do you feel Ian Holloway is performing as manager?
RM: I think he
is doing very very well with very limited resources.
He’s the sort of person that will dig his heels in and
he will graft. I think he’s doing well with what he has
got but it would be a difficult job for anybody. I’m not
one of these people that criticise him, I don’t agree
with the people that do that. I’ve read some articles in
the papers where people were having a bit of a chip at
him but I don’t agree with that.
QPRnet.com:
Do you feel this QPR can emulate QPR of 35 years?
RM: That’s a
bit of a stretch! I personally think that the QPR team I
played for was the best QPR team of all time. I know
that the seventies team with Gerry Francis, Stan Bowles
and Frank McLintock were good as well and almost won the
first division but I always look at the team I played in
as a magnificent football team.
We
had so much quality throughout the side in all
positions, we won so much and we won with flair they
were great days for me. I moved onto Manchester City who
were one of the biggest teams in Europe at the time but
I always look at that team as being special, very
special. So today’s team would have to do a lot to
emulate my team! |