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Our
latest interview is with 70's favourite Terry Mancini.
Terry talks about his time at Rangers, wearing wigs,
national anthems, what he thinks of players today, why
he's like John Terry and mooning Jim Gregory.
QPRnet.com:
How did you make your way to Loftus Road?
TS:
I started off at Watford and was disappointed when they
released me on a free but within twenty four hours I had
an offer to go and play in South Africa. I decided to
take it as it was an opportunity to escape and do
something new. It turned out to be the best thing I ever
did and it was the making of me as a person and a
player. I was able to concentrate on playing and in the
two seasons I was there we won the league and cup
double.
QPRnet.com:
That must have been quite an experience?
TS:
It
was great, apartheid was there in those days of course
but it was a case of “when in Rome”. You couldn’t step
out of line and be controversial about it. It was their
country, they were paying your wages so you had to get
on with it. That aside though it was a fantastic country
and I was able to work on my fitness and my skills
without the distractions that London has to offer!
I
then thought it was time to come back to England and
give myself another chance so I joined Leyton Orient. I
was there for four years or so, we won the Third
Division Championship and then I was sold to QPR.
QPRnet.com:
Was that a case of wanting to step up another level?
TS:
Well
not really, we didn’t have agents in those days so there
was no one offering you round to other clubs. Basically
if someone fancied you they phoned the manager up,
offered some money and bought you. You meet people now
and they say things like “why didn’t you play for
Chelsea” well it wasn’t as easy as that. You couldn’t
pick and choose who you wanted to play for, it was a
case of who came in for you. You were sold like a piece
of meat really, that’s why when people ask me who I
support I say no one, I enjoyed the game immensely but
my loyalties were always to the club paying my wages.
QPRnet.com:
You made your debut in a 0-0 draw at Hillsborough, do
you remember much from the day?
TS:
I
was signed on the Thursday and went straight into the
team for that game on the Saturday. I remember Bobby
Campbell saying to me in the dressing room “at last
we’ve got a centre half who can head the fucking ball”.
We got the draw like you said and a clean sheet is
always a good start for a defender.
QPRnet.com:
You were a key member of Gordon Jago’s team that won
promotion to the First Division, what was the side like
to play in?
TS:
Absolutely marvellous, we were a very good side with
very, very good players. We had a quality team but on
top of that we were all quality guys, there were no
cliques, we all socialised together and that helped to
create an excellent team spirit and a super team.
QPRnet.com:
It sounds like all the players had a great relationship
then?
TS:
They
were a great set of lads, we still meet up even now from
time to time. People point out to me that Stan Bowles
wrote in his book that I was the worst centre half he
ever played with but I have no gripes with that at all,
everyone is entitled to their opinions. Stan was a star,
a real quality player and I say it was a pleasure to be
in the same side as him and to play in games that he won
for us. I can turn round later in life and say “I played
with Stan Bowles and he was a genius” if he wants to say
“I played with Terry Mancini and he was a disaster”
that’s up to him!
QPRnet.com:
It was a fairly attacking team, did that make your job
as a defender easier or harder?
TS:
A
bit of both really, I was an out and out defender, I
scored the odd goal and set a few up but my job was to
make sure no goals were scored against us. If we came
off after a boring nil nil draw then I felt I’d done my
job well. Granted the supporters always want to see
great football but that’s not possible every game, so as
long as we didn’t get beat they could go to work on a
Monday and feel reasonably happy.
We
were a very good side with wonderful forward players but
when our backs were against the wall then they were
happy to dig in and do a job. You had quality like Gerry
Francis and Terry Venables and then a workhorse like
Mickey Leach who would run up and down the field all day
for you.
QPRnet.com:
You hear a lot of talk about Dave Sexton and his great
achievements at QPR but what was his predecessor like
and do you think he deserves more credit for his part in
starting that team off?
TS:
There is certainly some credit due because most of the
team was signed by Gordon Jago, he saw something in us
all. It’s a bit like Mourinho this season at Chelsea,
most of his players were signed by the previous manager
but Mourinho is the one that got them to gel and play as
a team to win the title. Claudio Ranieri never gets
mentioned and Mourinho gets all the credit. Certainly
he’s done a great job but I think Ranieri would deserve
some of the praise too and that’s a very similar
situation to Gordon Jago and Dave Sexton.
I
only spent four days with Dave Sexton because by the
time he joined everything had been set up for me to move
to Arsenal. To be fair to Dave he said that he would
have wanted to keep me and I’d have been in his side, I
thanked him for that but told him I couldn’t have turned
Arsenal down and he totally understood. Dave was a
little more adventurous than Gordon and had a little bit
more organisation. Gordon learned his management skills
in America and he was schooled in a different way, I
think Dave’s methods suited the players that were at QPR
better than Gordon’s, so he got more out of them.
QPRnet.com:
You’re famous for playing with a big smile on your face,
was football more fun then or was it less intense?
TS:
All
the pressures were the same, you wanted to win the
league, you hated getting beaten, you got bonuses for
doing well etc. We had a side at QPR that wouldn’t let
you have a day off. If you had a bad day someone would
help you out and fill in for you but you could never sit
back and say I don’t fancy this today and if anyone did
that then we certainly let them know about it!
The
reason I smiled a lot is because I thought I was an
extremely lucky man to be playing football with arguably
limited ability. I’d worked my socks off to improve the
strengths I had and I played nineteen years of football.
Most people would give their right arm for that, there
were thirty thousand people watching me every week and I
bet twenty nine thousand of them wanted to be where I
was.
QPRnet.com:
What was your relationship like with the fans?
TS:
Initially not great, I came from Leyton Orient as an
unknown and whether you’re Thierry Henry or Terry
Mancini it takes a while to bed into the side. You need
to get to know the players, the system, the training
methods etc and all those things affect you and can do
so for quite a long time. It took me a while to settle
in because I came from a side where I was the kingpin. I
was captain of Orient, first name on the team sheet and
then all of sudden I’m playing with all these great
players and I’m a small fish in a big pond so I had to
prove, not just to the fans but to the players as well,
that I was good enough to play with them.
So
while you’re adapting you’re inconsistent, consequently
I got dropped and everyone said I was crap and Rangers
had made a mistake buying me. Twelve months down the
line though it had all changed, things turned round and
suddenly I felt accepted. It’s strange I can remember
the day it all turned round. We played Portsmouth and I
think we beat them 5-0 or something but I was all over
the place, overlapping, popping up on the wing, trying
to beat the full back and I was a centre half! That day
the crowd took to me, if you have the crowd on your side
it gives you such confidence.
That’s why I used to feel so sorry for Mickey Leach he
had the crowd on his back every game and he was a player
that worked harder than most of us but the crowd just
didn’t take to him. It was a shame because we as his
team mates appreciated the work that he did for us. I’ve
always maintained that if you look through the great
sides over the years there are normally two or three
players who you would consider quite ordinary but you
need that type of player to dig in week after week.
Mickey Leach was like that for us but he used to get
booed when his name was read out. It was totally unfair
on him because he’d do his job and half of Gerry
Francis’ because when Gerry went forward he’d be there
covering for him. Same with me really, I couldn’t have
scored the goals that Stan Bowles did but I would do
that little bit extra for him because he’d win games for
us.
QPRnet.com:
How did you end up wearing a wig on the pitch?
TS:
We won promotion to the First Division and a scribe
during the week wrote what a good side we were and what
a credit to the First Division we would be. They went
through the team and analysed us all like this, Phil
Parkes – should play for England, Dave Clement – future
international, Gerry Francis this and that etc etc. The
only player that they said should be replaced as soon as
possible was me. I think I only missed two games that
season so it hurt a bit, you spend all season playing
your best, you get promoted then before you’ve kicked a
ball in the top flight people are writing you off saying
“he’s crap, he’ll never make it”.
So
after these write ups came out we played Fulham and I
concocted this idea with Venables to wear a wig to
confuse everyone. So I borrowed a wig from my wife and
put it on before we went out, the place was packed out
for the last game of the season, the crowd roared as we
walked out and then you could hear this sort of
murmuring going round “who the fuck is this, Mancini
must have gone”. I always used to have a few headers
before the game started and Venables knocked one up for
me and I whipped the wig off and the crowd went berserk!
I could have fallen over my feet that day and the fans
would have thought it was a trick. I probably did
actually!
QPRnet.com:
You were once charged with “brining the game into
disrepute for removing your shorts before leaving the
pitch”. Tell us what happened there?
TS:
That’s right, I’d already been put on the transfer list
and Jim Gregory said they’d let me go for fifteen grand.
Arsenal came in for me the next day and Jim Gregory then
decided he wanted forty five grand for me! Arsenal said
hang on you valued him at fifteen and Jim said “we’ll we
didn’t know a big club would want him”! So they went
into negotiations for about five or six weeks and it
dragged on, Bertie Mee kept assuring me that it was
going to go through but I was getting frustrated because
I was being left out because of it.
A
game came up and Dave Webb was injured so Rangers were
forced to play me, we won 1-0 and I had a really good
match. As I walked off the pitch I looked up into the
South Africa Road stand and Jim Gregory is sitting there
with his hands over the railings looking down at me. So
I turned round, dropped my shorts and wiggled my arse at
him. Unfortunately I forgot the cameras were there,
consequently Jimmy Hill had me on Match of the Day
asking me why I had done it and I got suspended by the
FA for two weeks. It worked though because four days
later I was an Arsenal player and I served my suspension
at Highbury. I wouldn’t recommend it to young players
today though!
QPRnet.com:
You made your debut for Ireland in 1973 against Poland,
how did you get your call up, was that a family
connection?
TS:
My Father was Irish, I was born Terry Sealy, my Father
died when I was seven and when my Mother remarried we
changed our name to Mancini. I never realised that would
qualify me to play for Ireland and it was just a chance
conversation with Don Givens that brought it to light.
I
went over to Dublin for my first international game to
face Poland, they’d just drawn with England in the
previous match and knocked them out of the World Cup as
a result. It was a great honour to be selected and I
lined up at the side of the pitch desperate to get
playing. All the pre match ceremony seemed to go on
forever then the music started playing and it went on
and on and I turned to Don Givens and said “for fucks
sake their national anthem don’t half go on” and he said
“that’s ours Terry”. I didn’t have a clue!
QPRnet.com:
If you could compare yourself as a player to someone
playing today who would you liken yourself to?
TS:
Well
I was a bald centre half and everyone’s had their hair
shaved now so I must have been twenty years ahead of my
time! My strength was my defending and heading
abilities. I would never like to get beaten, I refused
to be, regardless of who I was up against. If I had to
compare myself to someone then it would be John Terry,
don’t get me wrong I was a long, long way off being as
good as him but he is a good defender and a good header
of the ball, I’m a mile from his talents but his
qualities are the same sort of qualities that I had.
QPRnet.com:
Do you miss playing?
TS:
Yeh,
it’s a career that unfortunately is very short, if you
have nineteen years like I did and avoid injury then you
can consider yourself very lucky. I played around six
hundred games and consider myself very fortunate to have
done so. I’d love to play today, I’d love to play until
I die but it’s just not possible. The reasons I’d want
to play today would probably be all the wrong ones
really, like the money. I certainly wouldn’t enjoy the
press attention, that was different in our day you could
do stuff then that you’d have no chance of getting away
with now!
The
game has changed so much now though, there’s
psychologists, dieticians, innovative training methods
and whilst I have to say that the majority of games
today are wonderful, there were many players in my era
who were damn sight better footballers than most that
are playing today, and they would have been even better
if they had the opportunities and facilities the lads
have in this day and age.
QPRnet.com:
Today you work for Barwell Leisure, tell us about what
you do there.
TS:
I
head up the groups corporate events division, I run
conferences and executive trips all over the world. We
are the main tour operator for the famous La Manga
resort and we run trips there for many top football
clubs like Newcastle, Southampton, Tottenham and
Chelsea. That was our only destination for a time but
we’ve now branched out to many others all over the
world.
QPRnet.com:
Terry, thank you very much for your time
TS:
No problem at all and my best wishes to everyone at QPR.
I wish them all the best for the coming season and hope
that someday soon they get back into the Premiership.
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