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Our
latest interview is with former R's star John Hollins.
He was part of that great Rangers side that came so
close to the league title in the 70's and a member of
our coaching staff through the late 90's. John talks us
through his time at Loftus Road and beyond.
QPRnet.com:
You moved across from Chelsea in 1975, what made you
switch sides?
JH:
I was told by the manager at
Chelsea that he was going for younger players and I was
too old. I got offered about seventy quid a week to go
down to QPR and I took the chance. Dave Sexton being
there was a massive plus for me, once I knew he wanted
me that was it, decision made.
QPRnet.com:
You were approaching 30 at the time and a lot of the
players we were bringing in were around that age, do you
think having such an experienced side helped us?
JH:
Absolutely, you had quality
players in every position. You can list them all, people
like Parkes, Gillard, Clement, McLintok, Francis,
Masson, Thomas, Bowles it was fantastic times at QPR.
QPRnet.com:
Many fans, not just Rangers fans, remember that side as
being such a great footballing one, how enjoyable was it
for you to play in?
JH:
As you said we were so
experienced so we weren’t fazed or concerned by
anything. The only thing that could have hurt us was the
amount of games we played in those days and usually on
such appalling pitches. But you adapted to it through
your experience and we never made excuses. In some ways
that cost us but we had ability throughout the side, we
had a good mix of players with energy, strength and pace
plus nobody dared mess about with us.
QPRnet.com:
Stan is the man who stands out from the time but of
course the side was packed with quality throughout
wasn’t it?
JH:
Stan was actually very
underestimated due to all the things he did, and all the
rumours you hear about him, off the pitch. He was a top,
top footballer, he was clever, not the tallest but he
was so strong. He got kicked around and his ankles were
always in a terrible state, but he never felt sorry for
himself and he always got up and got on with it. He
wasn’t a diver but he took some terrible whacks. He was
no more than five nine but he was so strong, with such
ability and he had this uncanny ability of making people
fall for the same trick every time!
I had a lot of time for Stan
he was a good guy who loved his football. Everyone in
the team did really, we all wanted to play and just
loved playing football.
QPRnet.com:
You mentioned Dave Sexton there, everyone who played for
him says how ahead of his time he was and how
revolutionary his coaching was?
JH:
Absolutely, he is a quiet man
but his knowledge was out of this world. If he was in
his prime now he would be a top manager in the Premier
League. In the early days when we were at Chelsea back
in the 60’s he’d be going over to Italy to watch their
football, seeing how they play, how they adapt, how they
break defences down and he’d bring that back with him.
QPRnet.com:
Did you learn a lot from him and take into your coaching
career?
JH:
Oh yes, I would say that I
learned more from him than any other manager I worked
with. People say we were already a good team when he got
there but you need someone to guide you through and he
did that better than anyone. He took us into Europe and
but for a penalty shoot out we might have got a lot
further.
QPRnet.com:
The season you signed was the season we finished runners
up to Liverpool. When you joined did you see that kind
of potential in the squad?
JH:
I don’t think it took us by
surprise, we all had an immediate bond with each other.
I hadn’t played with any of these guys but we all knew
each through various times and places and all of a
sudden we were put together in a team. We all got on
extremely well and there were no big egos to deal with,
we all thought we were good players and we just got on
with it and did the job.
We beat Liverpool in the
first game of the season, I pulled a hamstring in the
first half and I took a little bit of time to get back
into the team after that. I had to fight to get back in
the team, nowadays people would be asking for a move.
Our squad had about seventeen men in it and Dave
astutely placed players in the positions he needed and
made us all want it so much.
QPRnet.com:
Obviously our fate was sealed when Liverpool played a
week after our season had finished and won the league.
What did you do with yourself during that game?
JH:
I listened to the Liverpool
game at home I remember Keegan scoring, as he always
did, but that’s the way it goes if you leave it to other
people. We took it to the last game, we couldn’t do much
more than that.
If I have to say we lost it
then I would say we lost it at Norwich, I can remember
one of their players, they used to call him Diesel, he
used to run through brick walls that fella! He never
scored all that many for them and he hit a shot which
Parkes had covered but it came off Dave Clement’s back
and flipped over him into the net. When they made it 3-1
it was miles offside too. Gerry pulled it back to 3-2
then we hit the bar. That one point would have got us
through.
We had Jim Gregory as
chairman of course and I think he was quite ahead of his
time really, he developed the stadium, he knew his
product, he got good managers in and good players and I
think he actually made money most of the time rather
than lose it. He was one of the first Chairman to run a
club as a business and make it pay its own way.
QPRnet.com:
The following season we had the run in Europe, what went
wrong on the night against Athens.
JH:
We had a good advantage going
over there but there were lots of little things that you
could complain about, a bad pitch, the referee being a
bit “different” as always. They made a change that won
it though, in the last couple of minutes they subbed
their keeper and bought on one who was good at saving
penalties and I think he saved two or three and that was
it.
It was a good run though I
can remember beating teams heavily on the way because we
could always score a lot of goals with that side. The
game against Cologne sticks out though, we thought we’d
lost when the whistle went but it turned out we’d won on
away goals! We all went trudging off and someone had to
tell us we’d actually gone through.
QPRnet.com:
Unfortunately we started to slide down the league over
the next couple of years and ended up getting relegated,
what went wrong there?
JH:
Well the players we had were
ageing, Gerry had lots of back injuries, he’d play half
a game then miss six, we lost Parkes to West Ham of
course so we tried to bring through some young players
but it was always a struggle.
QPRnet.com:
What was more disappointing losing the title in ’76 or
being relegated in ’79?
JH:
I don’t think you can
separate the two really, one is an unbelievable high
that we missed out on and the other is a massive low
that we didn’t. You look back and try and find moments
or games where we lost it but you can’t really. It’s all
about where the club was at the time. There was plenty
of optimism at the start of the season but it soon wears
off when the results don’t go your way. Frank Sibley was
in charge and he was a young manager, we’d finished a
few off the bottom the previous season, which was an
achievement in itself for him, but it all caught up with
us the next year.
QPRnet.com:
After your time at Rangers you moved onto Arsenal how
did that come about?
JH:
Tommy Doherty had come in by
then and he told me he wanted to bring some kids
through, I said I was a bit old to play for the youth
team and he said ‘you’ve got in one John’, so I was on
my way out. I was bought by Rangers for £80,000 and sold
to Arsenal for the same money.
QPRnet.com:
You played on until long into your 30’s which wasn’t
that common back then, did you have a different approach
to your career that helped you prolong it?
JH:
I just kept fit really, I
finished playing at Chelsea at 39, I went back there and
played a season in the second division. We won the
championship that year and I played 30 odd games, then I
became their manager at the age of 40.
QPRnet.com:
You returned to Rangers as part of the coaching staff in
the 90’s, it must have been nice to be back?
JH:
Oh it was, we had a good set
up with myself, Ray Wilkins, Billy Bonds, Frank Sibley
etc. I was running the reserves of course but I loved
every moment of that.
QPRnet.com:
You took charge after Stuart Houston left on a caretaker
basis, you wanted the job, how disappointed were you not
to get it?
JH:
I thought I had the
experience to do a good job but obviously others didn’t
agree, Ray Harford got position and we never really
moved forward. That’s life though.
QPRnet.com:
The one thing I remember from your first home game in
charge was you dropped all of our ex Arsenal players,
the crowd loved it, everyone was signing “We’re not
Arsenal anymore” was that a purely tactical decision or
were you trying to stamp your authority on things?
JH:
I picked players I felt would
play for me. I’d won the reserves league with Tony
Roberts in goal and I thought he was the better option
there, same with the others really. I wanted to get the
job full time so I picked players that I trusted to give
me everything they had to help me achieve that.
QPRnet.com:
You were promoted to assistant manager for a season
under Harford, then he let you go and replaced you with
Vinnie Jones…
JH:
Well to be precise Vinnie
came, and I left, I wasn’t going to be at the same club
as him.
QPRnet.com:
If you could roll back time and either be manager of QPR
or playing for QPR, which would you choose?
JH:
I wouldn’t change a thing in
my career to be honest, I’ve managed at all different
levels, from the top down. I’ve gone north, east, south
and west in this country. I’ve managed in China and
Saudi Arabia, I won a championship with Swansea, their
first one in 34 years. I feel pretty good about my
career, what I’ve done and what I’ve learned from the
people I worked with.
I’m indebted to Dave Sexton
because he got me interested in coaching at a very early
age, his style is my style, or I would like to think it
was. He’s a good man, a very straightforward honest man
who gives you everything he’s got and you cant ask for
more than that.
QPRnet.com:
You’ve had some pretty unique experiences as a manager
then, how was working in China?
JH:
It was northern China, miles
from anywhere you don’t see a European for weeks at a
time and the language was impossible. It was tough, but
at the end of the day the balls are the same, the
pitches are the same, players are the same, I enjoyed it
greatly and I learned a lot too.
QPRnet.com:
Was your favourite memory of QPR?
JH:
Simply walking into the
dressing room for the first time at Rangers, I just knew
we’d all get along. It always was a friendly club and
still is, as soon as you go through the door someone
will recognise you and start talking about the old days,
that’s something that’s very, very important and QPR
have always been good at that.
I enjoyed my time at Rangers,
I was made to feel extremely welcome at QPR by
everybody, it’s important to feel wanted and everyone
from the manager and the directors to the supporters
were all brilliant. You get into it, I put the hoops on
and I was a Rangers man. I was part of a wonderful team
and we wanted to win something, we should have done and
I’m more than a little bit sorry that we didn’t.
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